WoW Forever Talent and Gear Planners: Talents Forever, GearQuest Forever and Pawn

Talent trees in WoW Forever are not the Classic Era trees, and most gear advice from 2019 points at the wrong items. Two addons built for the new client fill the gap: Talents Forever, a talent planner you open with /tf, and GearQuest Forever, which lists upgrades for every slot from level 1 to 60. Here is where to get them, what to set first, how they sit next to Pawn, and what is confirmed about dual spec at 40 and the new 16-point talents. Checked on 8 November 2026 for WoW Forever 1.60.1. Both addons update often, so check each page's Files tab for the newest build.

Short answer

• Install Talents Forever from CurseForge; the folder must be called TalentsForeverBook, and /tf opens it.
• Plan your build first, then either press Apply yourself or switch on its hands-free mode to place points as you level.
• Install GearQuest Forever and right-click any slot on the character panel to see ranked upgrades and where they drop.
• Pawn has a Forever file too, but let only one addon score your tooltips to avoid clutter.
• Dual spec opens at level 40 according to Blizzard's class deep dives; the price had not been confirmed at the time of writing.

Talents Forever: install and first plan

Talents Forever is by baldwinbuilds, who also runs the free web calculator at talentsforever.com. The Forever file at the time of writing was 0.38.19, uploaded on 6 November 2026.

1. Install it with the CurseForge app (choose your Forever install) or download the zip by hand.
2. For a manual install, keep the folder name TalentsForeverBook and check that TalentsForeverBook.toc sits directly inside _forever_\Interface\AddOns\TalentsForeverBook.
3. Restart the game fully, tick Talents Forever under AddOns at character select, and log in.
4. Type /tf, or click the book on the minimap or the book tab on the character pane.
5. Left-click talents to add points and right-click to remove them. Nothing is spent until you press Apply.
6. Use the level bar under the trees to see what your build looks like at, say, level 30.

Watch the name: a different addon uses a folder called TalentsForever, and Forever Talents is another, unfinished project. If /tf opens something unfamiliar, check which one you installed.

Feature	What it does	Worth turning on?
Hands-free	Places your planned points as you level	Yes for alts, optional for a main
Popular builds	Leveling, PvE and PvP lists, refreshed daily from the site	Yes, as a starting point
Trainer page	What you can learn now and later; prices appear after a trainer visit	Yes
Reminders and sounds	Alerts when the trainer has something new	Taste

Sharing builds and links

Builds travel as links. Select the build text and press Ctrl+C yourself, because the game does not let an addon write to your clipboard. To load a friend's build, paste the link and press Load. Saved builds are stored by name and appear on every character.

The Party and Guild buttons send a build to other players who have the addon. Addon messages between players are reported to be blocked inside instances, so send builds in town.

GearQuest Forever: upgrades by level

GearQuest Forever by weber8210 reached 1.1.0 on 7 November 2026. It never equips or moves your items; it only tells you what to chase.

1. Install it from CurseForge, restart the game and tick it at character select.
2. Right-click any slot on your character panel. You get a ranked list of upgrades for your class, spec and level, with the source: quest, dungeon, vendor or rare.
3. Pick one and track it as a hunt. Map pins mark the quest giver, dungeon entrance or vendor, and a toast appears when you get the piece.
4. Open the settings (gear icon) and use Play Styles (one hides dungeon items, "Focus Zone" sticks to your area) if you solo, and the source filter to hide professions or rares you will not farm.
5. Use the Simulator tab to preview another class, spec or level, then switch simulation off to return to your own character.

Hover over an item and GearQuest shows a slot score and whether it beats what you wear. Pawn (2.14.1 for Forever, 2 November) does a similar job with stat weights, so running both puts two verdicts on every tooltip. GearQuest alone suits most levellers; if you keep Pawn, hide the GearQuest score bar in its general settings. For quest routing alongside gear hunts, see Questie setup.

Dual spec, respecs and the 16-point talent

What is confirmed, and what is not, at the time of writing:

Topic	Status
First talent point	Level 10
Milestone talents	One-point talents at 11, 16, 21 and 31 points in a tree; the 16-point tier is new to Forever
Dual spec	Level 40, per Blizzard's class deep dives; a developer called 40 the current setting
Dual spec cost	Not confirmed; the 50 gold some sites quote is the Classic Anniversary price, not a Forever announcement
Respec	At your class trainer; Blizzard said prices rise quickly after a respec and fall back weekly

The practical plan: make a levelling build in Talents Forever, save a second one for dungeons or PvP, and keep gold aside before 40 so the mount and dual spec do not compete. The first mount at 40 gold plan helps with the budget, and the best class and race to level covers which specs level fastest.

Common problems

Problem	What helps
/tf does nothing	The addon is not loaded; restart fully and tick it at character select
Talents Forever listed as incompatible	You have a Classic Era file or the folder was renamed; reinstall and keep TalentsForeverBook
Shared link will not paste	Copy with Ctrl+C yourself, then use Load in the addon
Hands-free placed a point you did not want	Edit the plan; a wrong point costs a respec at the trainer
GearQuest suggests a dungeon item you cannot run	Pick the play style that hides dungeons
Two upgrade arrows on every tooltip	Disable Pawn or hide the GearQuest score bar

Tips

• Plan to level 60 before you spend a point, so early picks lead somewhere.
• Turn hands-free off on your main if you like to choose each point yourself.
• Visit a trainer once with Talents Forever on, so its Trainer page can show prices.
• Retrack GearQuest hunts every few levels, because the best item for a slot changes quickly while levelling.
• Save one build per role by name, since saved builds appear on all your characters.
• Download only from the author's CurseForge page and ignore reuploads with similar names.

ForeverBot and this setup

Both planners can stay on with ForeverBot. The Leveling section has an Equip upgrades option, so pick one judge of gear: either let GearQuest guide your choices and equip by hand, or leave the bot's option on and treat GearQuest as advice. See ForeverBot first-run setup. Automation breaks Blizzard's rules and Blizzard bans accounts for it.

FAQ

What is the slash command for Talents Forever?

Type /tf. The book icon on the minimap and the book tab on the character pane open it too. If nothing happens, the addon is not loaded: restart the game fully and tick it in the AddOns list at character select.

Does GearQuest Forever equip gear automatically?

No. The author states that it never equips or moves your items. It ranks upgrades for each slot by class, spec and level, shows where each piece comes from and lets you track it like a quest. Equipping stays your choice.

When do you get dual spec in WoW Forever?

At level 40, according to Blizzard's class deep dives and a developer on the official podcast, who called 40 the current setting. The price was not confirmed at the time of writing, so check at your trainer when you reach 40 and keep some gold aside.

Can I use Talents Forever and Pawn together?

Yes, they do different jobs: Talents Forever plans talents and Pawn scores items. The overlap is between Pawn and GearQuest Forever, which both rate gear on tooltips. Keep one of those two as your tooltip judge to avoid mixed signals.